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		<title>David Letterman: Power Differential is the Core Issue</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jack Tuckner, Esq.</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jack Tuckner was recently interviewed regarding David Letterman fiasco. We reproduce excerpts of his responses to the following questions: 1) Is it ever OK to date a co-worker and if so, when? 2) How often does this occur? 3) Should there be certain ground rules? 4) What if the company has a policy against dating [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jack Tuckner</strong> was recently interviewed regarding David Letterman fiasco. We reproduce excerpts of his responses to the following questions:</p>
<p>1) Is it ever OK to date a co-worker and if so, when?<br />
2) How often does this occur?<br />
3) Should there be certain ground rules?<br />
4) What if the company has a policy against dating a co-worker?<br />
5) Letterman&#8217;s situation is complicated by the fact that he&#8217;s married. Is work the place most married men cheat?</p>
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<strong>By Jack Tuckner, Esq.</strong></a></p>
<p>It is always legally OK to date a co-worker if he&#8217;s actually a co-worker, and not her superior, as it&#8217;s all about the <em>power differential</em>, which yields an increasingly actual and/or perceived coercive status in direct proportion to the breadth of the power divide.   Clearly, sex among healthy young people living together in a workplace for upwards of 60 hours per week, is quite common and will never be successfully subject to tight regulation, although ground rules for &#8220;dating&#8221; a co-worker should start and end with proscriptions against managers dating their subordinates, because the situation is then fraught with potentially serious ramifications for both the employee (almost always a subordinate female) and the company, if and when the relationship sours and the bitterness of the spurned manager leads to an adverse employment action taken against the female employee exercising her right to terminate the relationship, thus laying the fertile foundation for a viable sex discrimination/retaliation lawsuit.  Or, the jilted employee turns vengeful  as as result of the emotional injury sustained through being left, and she treats her manager/lover&#8217;s actions as sexual harassment (he used me, then discarded me), thus involving and implicating the entire company apparatus, to no one&#8217;s benefit.<br />
<img src="http://www.topnews.in/light/files/Paris-Hilton-David-Letterman.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that David Letterman&#8217;s situation is complicated by his marital status, save for his own ensuing problems at home.  With respect to workplace exposure and liability, it&#8217;s legally meaningless that he may have committed adultery, and I&#8217;d wager that married people at work commit adultery with co-workers in roughly the same proportion as they do outside of work, the same as single people have sex with co-workers in roughly the same proportion as they do with people they meet and interact with regularly in other non-work settings.  Letterman&#8217;s situation is complicated by the fact that he&#8217;s rich, powerful and at the very top of the corporate food chain.  He earns 31.5 million dollars per year, and the women he&#8217;s having sex with likely earn closer to 31.5 thousand dollars per year.  If you&#8217;re a 24 year old female staffer and David Letterman comes on to you, how can it be said that the romantic playing field is level?   What if they respectfully decline to sleep with this man who is almost 4 decades their senior, and who earns 1000 times more than they do?  Should they worry about their job?  And if they say yes, what happens when the inevitable new young female staffer takes her place?   The situation is highly volatile, as well it should be, and my personal view is that David Letterman needs to troll for his love interests in places not so inextricably tied to the economic fortunes of the women he chooses to sexually pursue when they walk into his gunsight.</p>
<p>Finally, while a company may fire you if they have a policy against dating co-workers and they determine you stand in violation of same, that would not make the conduct illegal, and in Letterman&#8217;s case, the company is his own and not surprisingly, it determined he hasn&#8217;t violated the written sexual harassment policy.  It&#8217;s my understanding that none of these women have formally complained of sexual harassment, retaliation or anything untoward in their treatment by Mr. Letterman, and on one level, who are we to interpose our judgment on a relationship involving consenting adults, if these women <em>chose</em> to have sex with Letterman and have not the slightest regret.   And without a complaining witness, without one who believes that the terms and conditions of her employment with CBS and WorldWide Pants were degraded due to unwelcome sexual attention from Mr. Letterman and/or his or their retaliatory reaction to her refusal to accede to his sex-based wishes, without the allegation of the creation of a &#8220;severe or pervasive hostile work environment,&#8221; there is no federal or state legal action to be brought against Letterman or the corporate entities that employ him.</p>
<p>Having said that, can a relationship be truly &#8220;consensual&#8221; when one of the partners holds all the power of the purse over the other partner, much like any other master/servant relationship?  It&#8217;s definitionally problematic and non-consensual, especially when gender pay disparity still so economically disenfranchises women, and this oppression is writ large in the case of the fabulously wealthy, famous, beloved and powerful David Letterman, who may treat his female staffers as fungible objects of desire to be scouted and taken at will.</p>
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		<title>David Letterman: Privileges produce Consensus</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Saswat Pattanayak</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[By Saswat Pattanayak Contrary to mainstream media depictions, David Letterman did not have any affairs with his staff members. And contrary to liberal media apprehensions, the world does not need to be bothered about whether the incidents took place before or after his marriage. Letterman’s apologies to his wife on air are ridiculously unnecessary, and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>By Saswat Pattanayak </strong></p>
<p>Contrary to mainstream media depictions, David Letterman did not have any affairs with his staff members. And contrary to liberal media apprehensions, the world does not need to be bothered about whether the incidents took place before or after his marriage.  Letterman’s apologies to his wife on air are ridiculously unnecessary, and his failure to step down from his job after admission of guilt is soaked in implicit privileges.   </p>
<p><img src="http://www.austin360.com/shared-gen/blogs/austin/outandabout/2006124143145_DavidLetterman(CBS).jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>What Letterman has done is sheer abuse of his economic power and gender privilege. His unabashed claim that any disclosure of the details would embarrass his women employees he had sex with, evidences blatant sexism. Its a great irony of our times that women continue to not only put up with sexual advances at workplaces, but also are expected to maintain silence in fear of their career prospects. And here is a liberal intellectual who advances this regressive theory in an effort to “protect” his victims. </p>
<p>If Letterman feels his acts with the female employees are not unethical, the same must hold true for the women too. Hence, he needs to announce the names of the staffers, and the judiciary system must ensure that nothing harms the women simply because they had a relationship with Letterman. If Letterman’s job is not being taken away despite his being the perpetrator, there is no reason why the women’s will be. </p>
<p>If, however, Letterman feels he has violated ethics and possibly laws, by acting unworthy of his stature by means of either sexually exploiting the employees or by indulging in “consensual” sex with employees with full knowledge of their otherwise social commitments, then Letterman should have already resigned long time back, and having failed to do so, he must set an example now. </p>
<p>However, as it turns out, the world came to know about Letterman’s abuse of power only following the blackmailing tactics, indicating Letterman had something to hide, and this something was clearly unethical. </p>
<p>Letterman’s statement is wrong at so many levels: “The creepy stuff was that I have had sex with women who work for me on this show. Now, my response to that is, yes I have. I have had sex with women who work on this show. And would it be embarrassing if it were made public? Perhaps it would, perhaps it would. Especially for the women. But that’s a decision for them to make&#8211;if they want to come public and talk about the relationships, if I want to go public and talk about the relationships.”</p>
<p>First, Letterman’s dismissal of the employees as just “women” without names who “work for” him on the show clearly smacks of disrespect. Secondly, to assume that the onus must lie with the women to protect their character from being tarnished is the age-old excuse under which men have sexually exploited women all along. Letterman’s reasonings might be proper considering his tradition of making disparaging remarks about women (Sarah Palin and her daughter were verbally humiliated by Letterman solely based on their gender), but they are no grounds for escaping critical scrutiny. Thirdly, the race and gender blindness of powerful men have always assumed that it is entirely possible for the women victims to become public and talk about their relationships with the perpetrators, and that, in doing so, they just might be believed. Letterman assumes he and his victims are on the equal level, without taking into consideration the disparate social locations they belong to, the unequal power relationships they share, the economic class barriers among them and the gender equations prevailing in today’s sexist world. </p>
<p>Whether Letterman invites legal troubles or not is unimportant. At the crux of the issue are his responses and responsibilities as a media personality who has been accorded viewership. An abuse of power coupled with racial privileges cost Don Imus his job. Letterman’s is an instance of abuse of power coupled with gender privileges. Sexual harassment at workplaces are so rampant and complex in their stratifications that it is implicitly required for the employers and employees not to engage in sexual relationships. This is necessary not because it may or may not cost the employer a reputation or the lack of it, but because, more often than not, the women employees will be victimized to suffer as silent subjects without alternative recourses. The women employees usually have lesser choices to explore avenues when they are confronted with hostile or demanding employer. Not only as being men, but also as being economically superior, the male employers need to enforce codes of conduct where the assumed disadvantages of female employees are not violated by anyone at the office, least of all, by the bosses themselves. </p>
<p>Letterman has violated the workplace ethics by involving in sexual relationships &#8211; not just with one woman, but with several, while being an employer. He has also displayed disgusting attitudes towards women in understanding their limits and potential. And his making references to his “affairs” in jocular fashion only adds to his already established sexist image. </p>
<p>When legality follows, Letterman may face charges, or like another privileged creative professional brought to recent limelight, Polanski, may gather enough media support for his case so as to have himself pictured as the victim. But for now, American media do not need Letterman’s jokes and judgments, considering his sense of “creepy” is beyond reproach, and judge he must never again. Privileges produce consensus. Letterman is the brightest instance who abused his privileges.</p>
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